[ale] slightly OT: what would you use to manage email forwarding lists for a non-profit?

[Neal Rhodes via Ale]

So our church really needs to build and maintain maybe 20-30 email lists
for youth group, bluegrass group, bell choir, chancel choir, study group
1, 3, 4, 5, mens group, soundTech group, etc. So anyone can email to
the group name and not keep up with addresses. This shouldn't be
hard.

Church uses Gmail for Business. We tried setting up a gmail address,
and enabling Forwarding, and put in 12 address. BUT Gmail only allows 2
out of the 12 to be "in use" at any time. So it looks like that's a
flop. And it's kinda a PIA, as every address you put in, Gmail sends
them an email and they have to opt-in. With some user populations,
that ain't never going to happen.

I've setup forwarding within my company Godaddy account, but that's not
easy enough to delegate to anyone.

Ideally, it should:

- be useable by multiple people, like a handful
- verify addresses are good via STMP but not require an opt-in
- forward such that replies also get forwarded.
- I don't want to host this somewhere and have to support it
forever


Thoughts? MailChimp came to mind, but I thus far have no experience
with it.

regards,


Neal

[Joey Kelly via Ale]

Post by Neal Rhodes via Ale
So our church really needs to build and maintain maybe 20-30 email lists
for youth group, bluegrass group, bell choir, chancel choir, study group
1, 3, 4, 5, mens group, soundTech group, etc. So anyone can email to
the group name and not keep up with addresses. This shouldn't be
hard.

I used majordomo for years, and pondered the rewrite for my new server, but
chose mlmmj instead. I can't stand mailman, but it's obviously quite popular.

Vendor-provided web-based services? No clue, I don't use those.
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http://joeykelly.net
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[Ken Cochran via Ale]

Church where I play in orchestra & other churches use
something called "Planning Center." Can't say I'm a fan
though - html-only emails come from it & some 900+ line buncha
html/script for a 2-3 line actual text message/announcement.
Makes me Glad to have html NOT enabled in email. They also
use Google Groups but I dunno specifics -k

Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:51:58 -0500
Subject: [ale] slightly OT: what would you use to manage email forwarding
So our church really needs to build and maintain maybe 20-30 email lists
for youth group, bluegrass group, bell choir, chancel choir, study group
1, 3, 4, 5, mens group, soundTech group, etc. So anyone can email to
the group name and not keep up with addresses. This shouldn't be
hard.
Church uses Gmail for Business. We tried setting up a gmail address,
and enabling Forwarding, and put in 12 address. BUT Gmail only allows 2
out of the 12 to be "in use" at any time. So it looks like that's a
flop. And it's kinda a PIA, as every address you put in, Gmail sends
them an email and they have to opt-in. With some user populations,
that ain't never going to happen.
I've setup forwarding within my company Godaddy account, but that's not
easy enough to delegate to anyone.
- be useable by multiple people, like a handful
- verify addresses are good via STMP but not require an opt-in
- forward such that replies also get forwarded.
- I don't want to host this somewhere and have to support it
forever
Thoughts? MailChimp came to mind, but I thus far have no experience
with it.
regards,
Neal

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[Brent Laminack via Ale]

Neal,

The classic open-source answers would be:
MajorDomo, which currently looks defunkt
Gnu Mailman at: http://www.list.org/
and PHPList at: https://www.phplist.org/
but these are you-support-it kinda things
for commercial use, there's: Mobilize: https://mobilize.io/
which claims to have a free tier, but gets pricey fast after that.
or PHPList has a commercial conjugate twin at: https://www.phplist.com
Pricing looks pretty reasonable. I'd probably start there.

Brent

[Derek Atkins via Ale]

Hi,

Post by Brent Laminack via Ale
Neal,
MajorDomo, which currently looks defunkt
Gnu Mailman at: http://www.list.org/
and PHPList at: https://www.phplist.org/
but these are you-support-it kinda things
for commercial use, there's: Mobilize: https://mobilize.io/
which claims to have a free tier, but gets pricey fast after that.
or PHPList has a commercial conjugate twin at: https://www.phplist.com
Pricing looks pretty reasonable. I'd probably start there.

This list is run by mailman.
I manage a bunch of mailman lists for gnucash.org.
YMMV.

Post by Brent Laminack via Ale
Brent

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[Alan Dobkin via Ale]

Neal, assuming you are talking about forwarding only (no mailboxes or
archives) with a reasonable volume and limited/occasional support, I can
host this for you on my company' servers for $5 per month ($60
annually). Feel free to contact me directly if you're interested.

Alan

Post by Neal Rhodes via Ale
So our church really needs to build and maintain maybe 20-30 email
lists for youth group, bluegrass group, bell choir, chancel choir,
study group 1, 3, 4, 5, mens group, soundTech group, etc.    So anyone
can email to the group name and not keep up with addresses.   This
shouldn't be hard.
Church uses Gmail for Business.    We tried setting up a gmail
address, and enabling Forwarding, and put in 12 address. BUT Gmail
only allows 2 out of the 12 to be "in use" at any time.    So it looks
like that's a flop.     And it's kinda a PIA, as every address you put
in, Gmail sends them an email and they have to opt-in.     With some
user populations, that ain't never going to happen.
I've setup forwarding within my company Godaddy account, but that's
not easy enough to delegate to anyone.
- be useable by multiple people, like a handful
- verify addresses are good via STMP but not require an opt-in
- forward such that replies also get forwarded.
- I don't want to host this somewhere and have to support it forever
Thoughts?  MailChimp came to mind, but I thus far have no experience
with it.
regards,
Neal
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[Harold Bieber via Ale]

If they use Gmail for business, why not use google groups?
***@mychurch.org, then in the members add the 10 or so people as
members. Anything sent to ***@mychurch.org will be mailed directly to
the members of the group, and as a bonus, the group will keep the archive
of the message.

Let me know if you need further help with this. We do it here at the school
I work at, and there are some cool google admin command line tools so you
can just add people to the group without waiting for them to opt-in

Harold

Post by Neal Rhodes via Ale
So our church really needs to build and maintain maybe 20-30 email lists
for youth group, bluegrass group, bell choir, chancel choir, study group 1,
3, 4, 5, mens group, soundTech group, etc. So anyone can email to the
group name and not keep up with addresses. This shouldn't be hard.
Church uses Gmail for Business. We tried setting up a gmail address,
and enabling Forwarding, and put in 12 address. BUT Gmail only allows 2 out
of the 12 to be "in use" at any time. So it looks like that's a
flop. And it's kinda a PIA, as every address you put in, Gmail sends
them an email and they have to opt-in. With some user populations, that
ain't never going to happen.
I've setup forwarding within my company Godaddy account, but that's not
easy enough to delegate to anyone.
- be useable by multiple people, like a handful
- verify addresses are good via STMP but not require an opt-in
- forward such that replies also get forwarded.
- I don't want to host this somewhere and have to support it forever
Thoughts? MailChimp came to mind, but I thus far have no experience with
it.
regards,
Neal
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[Jim Lynch via Ale]

Look at Mailjet, Mailgun or Mailchimp.  All have free versions. Mailgun
gives you 10,000 free emails a month.  I don't know about Mailchimp.

I think Mailjet gives you 5,000 free, but don't quote me on that.

Jim.

Post by Neal Rhodes via Ale
So our church really needs to build and maintain maybe 20-30 email
lists for youth group, bluegrass group, bell choir, chancel choir,
study group 1, 3, 4, 5, mens group, soundTech group, etc.    So anyone
can email to the group name and not keep up with addresses.   This
shouldn't be hard.
Church uses Gmail for Business.    We tried setting up a gmail
address, and enabling Forwarding, and put in 12 address. BUT Gmail
only allows 2 out of the 12 to be "in use" at any time.    So it looks
like that's a flop.     And it's kinda a PIA, as every address you put
in, Gmail sends them an email and they have to opt-in.     With some
user populations, that ain't never going to happen.
I've setup forwarding within my company Godaddy account, but that's
not easy enough to delegate to anyone.
- be useable by multiple people, like a handful
- verify addresses are good via STMP but not require an opt-in
- forward such that replies also get forwarded.
- I don't want to host this somewhere and have to support it forever
Thoughts?  MailChimp came to mind, but I thus far have no experience
with it.
regards,
Neal
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