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[ale] OT (kind of):Updating a BIOS
Todor Fassl via Ale
2018-11-28 20:04:15 UTC
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I am looking for suggestions for running a BIOS program that must be run
in Windows on a laptop currently running debian stretch.

I was trying to update a friend's Acer Aspire 5315 laptop that is
running debian. The problem is that linux cannot control the fan so the
system overheats and shuts down after about 10 minutes. I have reason to
believe that a BIOS upgrade will fix this problem. However, the BIOS
upgrade program I downloaded from the Acer web site has to be run in
Windows. I tried freeDos and got the message, "This program cannot be
run in DOS mode."

Anybody have experience dealing with a problem like this? Is there a way
to install Windows just long enough to upgrade the BIOS? I don't have a
Windows license key thingy whatever it is.
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Passauer, Billy via Ale
2018-11-28 20:23:09 UTC
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Maybe boot from Hiren's Boot CD and then run your BIOS updater from a flash drive?

https://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

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Subject: [ale] OT (kind of):Updating a BIOS

I am looking for suggestions for running a BIOS program that must be run in Windows on a laptop currently running debian stretch.

I was trying to update a friend's Acer Aspire 5315 laptop that is running debian. The problem is that linux cannot control the fan so the system overheats and shuts down after about 10 minutes. I have reason to believe that a BIOS upgrade will fix this problem. However, the BIOS upgrade program I downloaded from the Acer web site has to be run in Windows. I tried freeDos and got the message, "This program cannot be run in DOS mode."

Anybody have experience dealing with a problem like this? Is there a way to install Windows just long enough to upgrade the BIOS? I don't have a Windows license key thingy whatever it is.

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Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
2018-11-28 21:20:34 UTC
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Are you sure they don't have BIN file for the BIOS? (BIN files can be executed from within Linux.)

Doing a web search just now for terms "acer laptop bios bin file" I see multiple hits. You might want to try same with your specific laptop model.

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From: Ale <ale-***@ale.org> On Behalf Of Passauer, Billy via Ale
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Subject: Re: [ale] OT (kind of):Updating a BIOS

Maybe boot from Hiren's Boot CD and then run your BIOS updater from a flash drive?

https://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

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From: Ale [mailto:ale-***@ale.org] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl via Ale
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:04 PM
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Subject: [ale] OT (kind of):Updating a BIOS

I am looking for suggestions for running a BIOS program that must be run in Windows on a laptop currently running debian stretch.

I was trying to update a friend's Acer Aspire 5315 laptop that is running debian. The problem is that linux cannot control the fan so the system overheats and shuts down after about 10 minutes. I have reason to believe that a BIOS upgrade will fix this problem. However, the BIOS upgrade program I downloaded from the Acer web site has to be run in Windows. I tried freeDos and got the message, "This program cannot be run in DOS mode."

Anybody have experience dealing with a problem like this? Is there a way to install Windows just long enough to upgrade the BIOS? I don't have a Windows license key thingy whatever it is.

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Phil Turmel via Ale
2018-11-28 21:34:50 UTC
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Or an EFI file. That's how I update my HP laptop's BIOS, without
booting anything.
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
Are you sure they don't have BIN file for the BIOS? (BIN files can be executed from within Linux.)
Doing a web search just now for terms "acer laptop bios bin file" I see multiple hits. You might want to try same with your specific laptop model.
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Maybe boot from Hiren's Boot CD and then run your BIOS updater from a flash drive?
https://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
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Subject: [ale] OT (kind of):Updating a BIOS
I am looking for suggestions for running a BIOS program that must be run in Windows on a laptop currently running debian stretch.
I was trying to update a friend's Acer Aspire 5315 laptop that is running debian. The problem is that linux cannot control the fan so the system overheats and shuts down after about 10 minutes. I have reason to believe that a BIOS upgrade will fix this problem. However, the BIOS upgrade program I downloaded from the Acer web site has to be run in Windows. I tried freeDos and got the message, "This program cannot be run in DOS mode."
Anybody have experience dealing with a problem like this? Is there a way to install Windows just long enough to upgrade the BIOS? I don't have a Windows license key thingy whatever it is.
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Boris Borisov via Ale
2018-11-28 21:52:22 UTC
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Is it Linux issue only or OS independent?
Post by Phil Turmel via Ale
Or an EFI file. That's how I update my HP laptop's BIOS, without
booting anything.
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
Are you sure they don't have BIN file for the BIOS? (BIN files can be
executed from within Linux.)
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
Doing a web search just now for terms "acer laptop bios bin file" I see
multiple hits. You might want to try same with your specific laptop model.
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ale] OT (kind of):Updating a BIOS
Maybe boot from Hiren's Boot CD and then run your BIOS updater from a
flash drive?
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
https://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
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Subject: [ale] OT (kind of):Updating a BIOS
I am looking for suggestions for running a BIOS program that must be run
in Windows on a laptop currently running debian stretch.
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
I was trying to update a friend's Acer Aspire 5315 laptop that is
running debian. The problem is that linux cannot control the fan so the
system overheats and shuts down after about 10 minutes. I have reason to
believe that a BIOS upgrade will fix this problem. However, the BIOS
upgrade program I downloaded from the Acer web site has to be run in
Windows. I tried freeDos and got the message, "This program cannot be run
in DOS mode."
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
Anybody have experience dealing with a problem like this? Is there a way
to install Windows just long enough to upgrade the BIOS? I don't have a
Windows license key thingy whatever it is.
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
-- changes will cause
Todd
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Horkan Smith via Ale
2018-11-29 15:42:14 UTC
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If you haven't found a more linux-y solution yet, Windows 10 will let you install w/out a product key. (There's a "I don't have a product key" option to click below the product key prompt.)

If the machine was previously authorized for Windows there's a good chance it'll find the digital key once you've fully installed... but even if it doesn't it'll let you run the BIOS installer. I've even had Windows find an acceptable digital key running in qemu-kvm sessions on physical hardware that was purchased w/ windows on it. (No, I wouldn't try running the BIOS update in a VM, but you knew that already. 9-))

You should expect anything that's on that hard drive to go away - be sure to back it up first, or physically swap it. You *might* get away w/ either a partition re-size or installing windows on a USB drive, but I haven't really tried either one.

Generating a Windows 10 install CD or USB is a bit of a pain, but can be done if you have access to an existing windows install. If you want to pursue this but don't have a CD or USB, let me know.

later!
horkan
Post by Todor Fassl via Ale
I am looking for suggestions for running a BIOS program that must be
run in Windows on a laptop currently running debian stretch.
I was trying to update a friend's Acer Aspire 5315 laptop that is
running debian. The problem is that linux cannot control the fan so
the system overheats and shuts down after about 10 minutes. I have
reason to believe that a BIOS upgrade will fix this problem. However,
the BIOS upgrade program I downloaded from the Acer web site has to be
run in Windows. I tried freeDos and got the message, "This program
cannot be run in DOS mode."
Anybody have experience dealing with a problem like this? Is there a
way to install Windows just long enough to upgrade the BIOS? I don't
have a Windows license key thingy whatever it is.
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Luke Norman via Ale
2018-11-29 16:38:20 UTC
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You might be able to extract the .exe and get the archive of the files it
contains, and then package as an iso using something like mkisofs or
genisoimage.
Post by Todor Fassl via Ale
I am looking for suggestions for running a BIOS program that must be run
in Windows on a laptop currently running debian stretch.
I was trying to update a friend's Acer Aspire 5315 laptop that is
running debian. The problem is that linux cannot control the fan so the
system overheats and shuts down after about 10 minutes. I have reason to
believe that a BIOS upgrade will fix this problem. However, the BIOS
upgrade program I downloaded from the Acer web site has to be run in
Windows. I tried freeDos and got the message, "This program cannot be
run in DOS mode."
Anybody have experience dealing with a problem like this? Is there a way
to install Windows just long enough to upgrade the BIOS? I don't have a
Windows license key thingy whatever it is.
--
Todd
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