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[ale] [OT] Need everyone's help
Jerald Sheets via Ale
2018-08-13 12:57:21 UTC
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My Dad passed away recently, and I’ve got a plastic tub FULL of coins. I’ve also got some sports memorabilia here.

I need to unload it all.

Problem Statement: Every time I’ve ever even so much as entered a coin shop, I walked away feeling as though I needed a shower after. Either the place was filthy, or the people were specious, or I felt like I was dealing with Rick from “Pawn Stars”.

Do any of you have a relationship with a coin shop and/or a sports memorabilia shop that is trustworthy and honest that you would recommend? I don’t want to keep all this mess, but at the same time, I don’t want to get taken advantage of. My dad and grandmother spent almost 40 years collecting all this, and I’d like to have their efforts mean something by not “giving away the farm” to some disreputable clod(ess).

Any help would be most appreciated!


Jerald
Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
2018-08-13 13:20:28 UTC
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My own coin collection is small and a hobby so I seldom talk to dealers.

This article has some good advice:
https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/appraising_coins/


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My Dad passed away recently, and I’ve got a plastic tub FULL of coins. I’ve also got some sports memorabilia here.

I need to unload it all.

Problem Statement: Every time I’ve ever even so much as entered a coin shop, I walked away feeling as though I needed a shower after. Either the place was filthy, or the people were specious, or I felt like I was dealing with Rick from “Pawn Stars”.

Do any of you have a relationship with a coin shop and/or a sports memorabilia shop that is trustworthy and honest that you would recommend? I don’t want to keep all this mess, but at the same time, I don’t want to get taken advantage of. My dad and grandmother spent almost 40 years collecting all this, and I’d like to have their efforts mean something by not “giving away the farm” to some disreputable clod(ess).

Any help would be most appreciated!


Jerald
leam hall via Ale
2018-08-13 13:25:42 UTC
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Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
My Dad passed away recently, and I’ve got a plastic tub FULL of coins. I’ve also got some sports memorabilia here.
I need to unload it all.
Problem Statement: Every time I’ve ever even so much as entered a coin shop, I walked away feeling as though I needed a shower after. Either the place was filthy, or the people were specious, or I felt like I was dealing with Rick from “Pawn Stars”.
Do any of you have a relationship with a coin shop and/or a sports memorabilia shop that is trustworthy and honest that you would recommend? I don’t want to keep all this mess, but at the same time, I don’t want to get taken advantage of. My dad and grandmother spent almost 40 years collecting all this, and I’d like to have their efforts mean something by not “giving away the farm” to some disreputable clod(ess).
Any help would be most appreciated!
Hey padner,

Sorry for your loss. Expected or not, some things are just difficult.

If you don't need the money too much, maybe pick a church project that
needs some funding and mentally shift the sales parts to finding ways
to get that ministry the most you can. Making the work a connection
between your parents and those who need help might make the effort
more rewarding.

Leam
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Jerald Sheets via Ale
2018-08-13 13:32:26 UTC
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Nah. We did all that by dividing his goods between various charity organizations including his car.

This is the part he explicitly asked me to sell and use the money for “something fun”. I just don’t want to get taken is all. :)


Many thanks!

—j
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Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
My Dad passed away recently, and I’ve got a plastic tub FULL of coins. I’ve also got some sports memorabilia here.
I need to unload it all.
Problem Statement: Every time I’ve ever even so much as entered a coin shop, I walked away feeling as though I needed a shower after. Either the place was filthy, or the people were specious, or I felt like I was dealing with Rick from “Pawn Stars”.
Do any of you have a relationship with a coin shop and/or a sports memorabilia shop that is trustworthy and honest that you would recommend? I don’t want to keep all this mess, but at the same time, I don’t want to get taken advantage of. My dad and grandmother spent almost 40 years collecting all this, and I’d like to have their efforts mean something by not “giving away the farm” to some disreputable clod(ess).
Any help would be most appreciated!
Hey padner,
Sorry for your loss. Expected or not, some things are just difficult.
If you don't need the money too much, maybe pick a church project that
needs some funding and mentally shift the sales parts to finding ways
to get that ministry the most you can. Making the work a connection
between your parents and those who need help might make the effort
more rewarding.
Leam
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Jim Kinney via Ale
2018-08-13 14:38:59 UTC
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There's always ebay. A decent source for pricing as well as selling in lots. If you can get a few coins with some value, put one in a batch of 10-40 others with lesser values.
Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
Nah. We did all that by dividing his goods between various charity
organizations including his car.
This is the part he explicitly asked me to sell and use the money for
“something fun”. I just don’t want to get taken is all. :)
Many thanks!
—j
Post by leam hall via Ale
Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
My Dad passed away recently, and I’ve got a plastic tub FULL of
coins. I’ve also got some sports memorabilia here.
Post by leam hall via Ale
Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
I need to unload it all.
Problem Statement: Every time I’ve ever even so much as entered a
coin shop, I walked away feeling as though I needed a shower after.
Either the place was filthy, or the people were specious, or I felt
like I was dealing with Rick from “Pawn Stars”.
Post by leam hall via Ale
Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
Do any of you have a relationship with a coin shop and/or a sports
memorabilia shop that is trustworthy and honest that you would
recommend? I don’t want to keep all this mess, but at the same time, I
don’t want to get taken advantage of. My dad and grandmother spent
almost 40 years collecting all this, and I’d like to have their efforts
mean something by not “giving away the farm” to some disreputable
clod(ess).
Post by leam hall via Ale
Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
Any help would be most appreciated!
Hey padner,
Sorry for your loss. Expected or not, some things are just difficult.
If you don't need the money too much, maybe pick a church project
that
Post by leam hall via Ale
needs some funding and mentally shift the sales parts to finding ways
to get that ministry the most you can. Making the work a connection
between your parents and those who need help might make the effort
more rewarding.
Leam
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Justin W Elam via Ale
2018-08-14 00:33:28 UTC
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Good Evening
In regards to your question regarding coins and collecting and hobbies ...

https://coinpurse.com/links-to-our-numismatic-friends/

Here are the links to some of the coin grading services for any coins you
want graded to potentially sell if they are rare or in mint state condition

https://coinpurse.com/

+1-615-269-6700
Hours
Tuesday through Friday 09:30 to 17:30 CDT
Saturday 10:00 to 16:00 CDT

This company gave me a hand in getting paid about .0125 for a hunk of wheat
pennies. Mostly junk that was collected with no real value to me or anyone
else.

Along with some advice.

Most anything of value pay to have it inspected by a reputable service like
NGA or GSA there are a few if the condition is close to MS 60 or 70 which
is known as Mint State 60 or 70 make sure you inside and send via
registered mail any coins that you feel need to be graded.

Other you just keep for sentimental value

And I found a few credit unions that provided a free coin machine along
with Coin Star gave the help I needed. For depositing and not having to
count and roll the hundreds of dollars worth of pennies a family member he
collected.

Hope this helps.

Cheers from J =)


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William Bagwell via Ale
2018-08-14 00:54:25 UTC
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No idea if they still exist, but there used to be clubs that met once a
month. I was a member of the Marietta Smyrna club back when they first
merged. Pretty sure there was at least one in Atlanta back then. Might get
half way between dealer buy and sell price that way.

Once all the good collectibles are gone sell any remaining silver to a
prepper. They do not care much about condition. Junk like slick buffalo
nickles are fun to spend and see peoples face light up!

William
Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
This is the part he explicitly asked me to sell and use the money for
“something fun”. I just don’t want to get taken is all.  :)
Many thanks!
Jeff Hubbs via Ale
2018-08-13 13:58:13 UTC
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I'll tell you what I know, based on my own experiences including selling
items on behalf of my mother's estate through 2016 and 2017.

Any coin or sports memorabilia dealer is going to do his or her level
best to give you only a token amount of money for everything. It's not a
matter of them being trustworthy vs. not; it's just business - including
a healthy amount of information asymmetry. Consider that if you bring
them 300 coins, going through each one to both identify it and grade it
is no small task. Coins that are packaged and graded through one of the
major grading companies like the American Numismatic Association
Certification Service have a value-add baked into them, but it is
generally not going to be worth that or even paying to have a local
expert grade them when you're talking about e.g. 50-cent pieces that
might sell for $0.75.

In other words, coins are a massive time sink and unless you have some
pieces that are in exceptionally good condition for their age, they just
aren't worth much. Having said this, I have some recommendations for
eBaying:

* If there are some individual coins that seem like they may be worth
at least a few bucks but you don't know grade, don't bother trying
to grade it yourself; just take really good photos of obverse and
reverse. I got good results by putting them on the flatbed glass of
a decent scanner (and that process is pretty fast, too - especially
for getting images of a lot of coins at once). But some years back,
before you could get better than 300dpi on a scanner, i set up a rig
where I'd place a coin on a gray cardboard circle atop a lightbox
and set a truncated cone of aluminum foil on top of that so I could
shoot a picture with a DSLR through the hole atop the cone; this
made for nice even lighting all the way around the coin.
* If the coins in the plastic tub are mostly undifferentiated and
well-worn, group together the all-copper and all-silver ones by
denomination and by composition (you'll have to look that up) and
sell each group as a set. Unless there are some real outliers as far
as rarity goes, the clad coins are all pretty much worth face if
they've been circulated at all.
* EBay and PayPal together take quite a chunk out of any sale. I
worked up a spreadsheet in Calc that runs the numbers with all the
fees and allows for different shipping payments by buyer and seller
(ideally they are the same) and the cost of packaging so I can tell
how much I've cleared or, more importantly, use Goal Seek to know
what opening bid I need in order to clear a given amount or break
even. It's very easy to wind up upside-down on an eBay sale if you
start an auction too low and that's what it sells for. And clearly,
if you've gathered together 100 silver quarters to sell as a lot you
want to make sure you clear no less than $25 on the sale.

For the sports memorabilia, some of the above holds with the addition
that you can often search existing or past sales to get an idea what to
ask for. If there are existing sales, your mission is to set your
opening bid so as to undercut everyone else without risking going
upside-down.
Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
My Dad passed away recently, and I’ve got a plastic tub FULL of coins. I’ve also got some sports memorabilia here.
I need to unload it all.
Problem Statement: Every time I’ve ever even so much as entered a coin shop, I walked away feeling as though I needed a shower after. Either the place was filthy, or the people were specious, or I felt like I was dealing with Rick from “Pawn Stars”.
Do any of you have a relationship with a coin shop and/or a sports memorabilia shop that is trustworthy and honest that you would recommend? I don’t want to keep all this mess, but at the same time, I don’t want to get taken advantage of. My dad and grandmother spent almost 40 years collecting all this, and I’d like to have their efforts mean something by not “giving away the farm” to some disreputable clod(ess).
Any help would be most appreciated!
Jerald
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Jerald Sheets via Ale
2018-08-14 11:24:52 UTC
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I want to thank everyone for their wonderful comments!

Highly grateful! I’ll let you all know how it went.


—jms
I'll tell you what I know, based on my own experiences including selling items on behalf of my mother's estate through 2016 and 2017.
Any coin or sports memorabilia dealer is going to do his or her level best to give you only a token amount of money for everything. It's not a matter of them being trustworthy vs. not; it's just business - including a healthy amount of information asymmetry. Consider that if you bring them 300 coins, going through each one to both identify it and grade it is no small task. Coins that are packaged and graded through one of the major grading companies like the American Numismatic Association Certification Service have a value-add baked into them, but it is generally not going to be worth that or even paying to have a local expert grade them when you're talking about e.g. 50-cent pieces that might sell for $0.75.
If there are some individual coins that seem like they may be worth at least a few bucks but you don't know grade, don't bother trying to grade it yourself; just take really good photos of obverse and reverse. I got good results by putting them on the flatbed glass of a decent scanner (and that process is pretty fast, too - especially for getting images of a lot of coins at once). But some years back, before you could get better than 300dpi on a scanner, i set up a rig where I'd place a coin on a gray cardboard circle atop a lightbox and set a truncated cone of aluminum foil on top of that so I could shoot a picture with a DSLR through the hole atop the cone; this made for nice even lighting all the way around the coin.
If the coins in the plastic tub are mostly undifferentiated and well-worn, group together the all-copper and all-silver ones by denomination and by composition (you'll have to look that up) and sell each group as a set. Unless there are some real outliers as far as rarity goes, the clad coins are all pretty much worth face if they've been circulated at all.
EBay and PayPal together take quite a chunk out of any sale. I worked up a spreadsheet in Calc that runs the numbers with all the fees and allows for different shipping payments by buyer and seller (ideally they are the same) and the cost of packaging so I can tell how much I've cleared or, more importantly, use Goal Seek to know what opening bid I need in order to clear a given amount or break even. It's very easy to wind up upside-down on an eBay sale if you start an auction too low and that's what it sells for. And clearly, if you've gathered together 100 silver quarters to sell as a lot you want to make sure you clear no less than $25 on the sale.
For the sports memorabilia, some of the above holds with the addition that you can often search existing or past sales to get an idea what to ask for. If there are existing sales, your mission is to set your opening bid so as to undercut everyone else without risking going upside-down.
Post by Jerald Sheets via Ale
My Dad passed away recently, and I’ve got a plastic tub FULL of coins. I’ve also got some sports memorabilia here.
I need to unload it all.
Problem Statement: Every time I’ve ever even so much as entered a coin shop, I walked away feeling as though I needed a shower after. Either the place was filthy, or the people were specious, or I felt like I was dealing with Rick from “Pawn Stars”.
Do any of you have a relationship with a coin shop and/or a sports memorabilia shop that is trustworthy and honest that you would recommend? I don’t want to keep all this mess, but at the same time, I don’t want to get taken advantage of. My dad and grandmother spent almost 40 years collecting all this, and I’d like to have their efforts mean something by not “giving away the farm” to some disreputable clod(ess).
Any help would be most appreciated!
Jerald
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