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David Millians via Ale
2018-11-05 15:31:59 UTC
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Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear some chat...
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Pete Hardie via Ale
2018-11-05 15:36:26 UTC
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"bombshell"?
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Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear some chat...
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Dustin Strickland via Ale
2018-11-05 15:44:17 UTC
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I'm hoping it's something to do with the new kernel version to be released
rather than more bad news
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"bombshell"?
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Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear some chat...
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David Millians via Ale
2018-11-05 16:04:11 UTC
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No, I was hoping to wander into an already ongoing discussion about the
'hacking' that was 'attempted' as alleged by our SOS.
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I'm hoping it's something to do with the new kernel version to be
released rather than more bad news
"bombshell"?
Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear some chat...
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Jim Kinney via Ale
2018-11-05 16:29:51 UTC
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$1 says it runs on windows.....
and uses PHP 4 for another $1
:-)
Post by David Millians via Ale
No, I was hoping to wander into an already ongoing discussion about
the 'hacking' that was 'attempted' as alleged by our SOS.
I'm hoping it's something to do with the new kernel version to be
released rather than more bad news
"bombshell"?
Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to
hear some
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DJ-Pfulio via Ale
2018-11-05 16:36:41 UTC
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Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear some chat...
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That KDE is being dropped from Redhat in ... 6 yrs?

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Steve Litt via Ale
2018-11-05 20:13:32 UTC
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 11:36:41 -0500
Post by DJ-Pfulio via Ale
Post by David Millians via Ale
Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear some
chat... _______________________________________________
That KDE is being dropped from Redhat in ... 6 yrs?
LOL, KDE and Redhat. If there have ever been two projects that deserved
each other, it's those two. In 2012 banished all KDE executables and
libraries from my computers because KDE is a monolithically entangled
mess. Three years later I banished all systemd from my computer for the
exact same reason.

Redhat, as it existed before the buyout, was all about complexifying
Linux to increase their consultation and training profit. Those motives
should have incentivised Redhat to keep KDE,and perhaps make it even
more complex.

Perhaps this is our first clue that IBM's Redhat doesn't need or want
complexification. If so, the future of systemd becomes, um, interesting.

Stay tuned.

SteveT
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Rich Roberts via Ale
2018-11-07 20:13:47 UTC
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"Redhat, as it existed before the buyout, was all about complexifying
Linux to increase their consultation and training profit."
You really think RH could make 2 billion in revenue last year consulting
and training on their operating system? Its kubernetes, open ledger,
middleware, etc. IBM would build their own or buy a cheap one, if they just
needed an operating system. They are trying to make up for the fact that
their cloud offering sucks, get some good linux engineers, and get a foot
into even more enterprise doors.
Post by Steve Litt via Ale
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 11:36:41 -0500
Post by DJ-Pfulio via Ale
Post by David Millians via Ale
Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear some
chat... _______________________________________________
That KDE is being dropped from Redhat in ... 6 yrs?
LOL, KDE and Redhat. If there have ever been two projects that deserved
each other, it's those two. In 2012 banished all KDE executables and
libraries from my computers because KDE is a monolithically entangled
mess. Three years later I banished all systemd from my computer for the
exact same reason.
Redhat, as it existed before the buyout, was all about complexifying
Linux to increase their consultation and training profit. Those motives
should have incentivised Redhat to keep KDE,and perhaps make it even
more complex.
Perhaps this is our first clue that IBM's Redhat doesn't need or want
complexification. If so, the future of systemd becomes, um, interesting.
Stay tuned.
SteveT
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Jim Kinney via Ale
2018-11-07 21:16:35 UTC
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And of course no one uses the $0 version CentOS since it's too hard to
use without an expensive consultant to do all the work.
RH made $2.9B last year because it works very well. If all one needs is
a couple of one-off machines, any distro will do. Once you hit the high
hundreds to thousands, the need for a very stable, well supported base
OS becomes crystal clear. RedHat started out *simplifying* things for
the large scale, enterprise IT shop. Not the commands but the overall
operation of the systems. Is release 1.0 always baked fully? Nope. The
joke has always been "upgrade when X.2 comes out". Still is pretty
true. Admin's poke at the new release until X.2 then start the
upgrade/replacement.
Of course RedHat never published any of the documentation on line for
$0 ( https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/ )
Other distros have a different focus.
I'm *hoping* IBM won't screw it up but they probably will.
Post by Rich Roberts via Ale
"Redhat, as it existed before the buyout, was all about complexifying
Linux to increase their consultation and training profit."
You really think RH could make 2 billion in revenue last year
consulting and training on their operating system? Its kubernetes,
open ledger, middleware, etc. IBM would build their own or buy a
cheap one, if they just needed an operating system. They are trying
to make up for the fact that their cloud offering sucks, get some
good linux engineers, and get a foot into even more enterprise
doors.
Post by Steve Litt via Ale
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 11:36:41 -0500
Post by DJ-Pfulio via Ale
Post by David Millians via Ale
Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear
some
Post by DJ-Pfulio via Ale
Post by David Millians via Ale
chat... _______________________________________________
That KDE is being dropped from Redhat in ... 6 yrs?
LOL, KDE and Redhat. If there have ever been two projects that deserved
each other, it's those two. In 2012 banished all KDE executables and
libraries from my computers because KDE is a monolithically
entangled
mess. Three years later I banished all systemd from my computer for the
exact same reason.
Redhat, as it existed before the buyout, was all about
complexifying
Linux to increase their consultation and training profit. Those motives
should have incentivised Redhat to keep KDE,and perhaps make it even
more complex.
Perhaps this is our first clue that IBM's Redhat doesn't need or want
complexification. If so, the future of systemd becomes, um,
interesting.
Stay tuned.
SteveT
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