Discussion:
[ale] need input on wobbling decision making on the PC
Narahari 'n' Savitha
2017-09-14 16:11:13 UTC
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Friends:

I am trying to a PC for transcoding purposes and dont want to spend a lot
if I can avoid.

I was almost ready with Microcenter for

FX 8350 CPU with eight cores ($70) PassMark of CPU is 8900
Mother board ASUS ($80)
Memory 16GB CAS9 ($120)
Paste is $4

All together with taxes = = 282 (no case, no disk, no vid card, key board
etc., etc., not that ineed it)
I can reuse existing case.

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However I saw this for $180 all inclusive.
https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5YV4XJ8211?icid=WP_0_09102017

The PassMark for the CPU - Intel Core i5-2400 Quad Core Processor - 3.1GHz
is 5907

----------------------------

So is the extra 100 dollars for the powerful CPU worth it ?

The purpose of the PC is purely for transcoding purpose the OTA channels
via HDHR.


Waiting for suggestions...


-N
DJ-Pfulio
2017-09-14 16:26:21 UTC
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It depends.
Post by Narahari 'n' Savitha
I am trying to a PC for transcoding purposes and dont want to spend a
lot if I can avoid.
I was almost ready with Microcenter for
FX 8350 CPU with eight cores ($70) PassMark of CPU is 8900
Mother board ASUS ($80)
Memory 16GB CAS9 ($120)
Paste is $4
All together with taxes = = 282 (no case, no disk, no vid card, key
board etc., etc., not that ineed it)
I can reuse existing case.
=================================================================================
However I saw this for $180 all inclusive.
https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5YV4XJ8211?icid=WP_0_09102017
The PassMark for the CPU - Intel Core i5-2400 Quad Core Processor -
3.1GHz is 5907
----------------------------
So is the extra 100 dollars for the powerful CPU worth it ?
The purpose of the PC is purely for transcoding purpose the OTA channels
via HDHR.
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DJ-Pfulio
2017-09-14 16:42:28 UTC
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BTW, for transcoding, more than 6G RAM is overkill.

Why don't you transcode something on your current PC? How long does it
take? Is that acceptable or not? What is the "passmark" for it? Now
use those amazing fractions to guestimate what the CPU you want will
take to transcode the same file. Is that acceptable?

I would also look at the required power used - which leads to the fan
needed which leads to the noise created. If the system is alone in the
basement, perhaps noise doesn't matter to you? Mine sit in my home
office, so noise and excess heat is unacceptable to me.

Every other time you post, it includes running a few VMs. More CPUs
helps with running more VMs.

Is it worth it?


It depends. We cannot say.
Post by DJ-Pfulio
It depends.
Post by Narahari 'n' Savitha
I am trying to a PC for transcoding purposes and dont want to spend a
lot if I can avoid.
I was almost ready with Microcenter for
FX 8350 CPU with eight cores ($70) PassMark of CPU is 8900
Mother board ASUS ($80)
Memory 16GB CAS9 ($120)
Paste is $4
All together with taxes = = 282 (no case, no disk, no vid card, key
board etc., etc., not that ineed it)
I can reuse existing case.
=================================================================================
However I saw this for $180 all inclusive.
https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5YV4XJ8211?icid=WP_0_09102017
The PassMark for the CPU - Intel Core i5-2400 Quad Core Processor -
3.1GHz is 5907
----------------------------
So is the extra 100 dollars for the powerful CPU worth it ?
The purpose of the PC is purely for transcoding purpose the OTA channels
via HDHR.
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Boris Borisov
2017-09-14 16:56:17 UTC
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Depends on your needs. I think video transcoding in the hardware is
available for most modern video chipsets. If your priority is speed over
quality look there.
Post by DJ-Pfulio
BTW, for transcoding, more than 6G RAM is overkill.
Why don't you transcode something on your current PC? How long does it
take? Is that acceptable or not? What is the "passmark" for it? Now
use those amazing fractions to guestimate what the CPU you want will
take to transcode the same file. Is that acceptable?
I would also look at the required power used - which leads to the fan
needed which leads to the noise created. If the system is alone in the
basement, perhaps noise doesn't matter to you? Mine sit in my home
office, so noise and excess heat is unacceptable to me.
Every other time you post, it includes running a few VMs. More CPUs
helps with running more VMs.
Is it worth it?
It depends. We cannot say.
Post by DJ-Pfulio
It depends.
Post by Narahari 'n' Savitha
I am trying to a PC for transcoding purposes and dont want to spend a
lot if I can avoid.
I was almost ready with Microcenter for
FX 8350 CPU with eight cores ($70) PassMark of CPU is 8900
Mother board ASUS ($80)
Memory 16GB CAS9 ($120)
Paste is $4
All together with taxes = = 282 (no case, no disk, no vid card, key
board etc., etc., not that ineed it)
I can reuse existing case.
============================================================
=====================
Post by DJ-Pfulio
Post by Narahari 'n' Savitha
However I saw this for $180 all inclusive.
https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5YV4XJ8211?icid=WP_0_09102017
The PassMark for the CPU - Intel Core i5-2400 Quad Core Processor -
3.1GHz is 5907
----------------------------
So is the extra 100 dollars for the powerful CPU worth it ?
The purpose of the PC is purely for transcoding purpose the OTA channels
via HDHR.
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Boris Borisov
2017-09-14 16:58:58 UTC
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Like

https://developer.nvidia.com/ffmpeg

I never had to use it but maybe ill give it test run.
Post by Boris Borisov
Depends on your needs. I think video transcoding in the hardware is
available for most modern video chipsets. If your priority is speed over
quality look there.
Post by DJ-Pfulio
BTW, for transcoding, more than 6G RAM is overkill.
Why don't you transcode something on your current PC? How long does it
take? Is that acceptable or not? What is the "passmark" for it? Now
use those amazing fractions to guestimate what the CPU you want will
take to transcode the same file. Is that acceptable?
I would also look at the required power used - which leads to the fan
needed which leads to the noise created. If the system is alone in the
basement, perhaps noise doesn't matter to you? Mine sit in my home
office, so noise and excess heat is unacceptable to me.
Every other time you post, it includes running a few VMs. More CPUs
helps with running more VMs.
Is it worth it?
It depends. We cannot say.
Post by DJ-Pfulio
It depends.
Post by Narahari 'n' Savitha
I am trying to a PC for transcoding purposes and dont want to spend a
lot if I can avoid.
I was almost ready with Microcenter for
FX 8350 CPU with eight cores ($70) PassMark of CPU is 8900
Mother board ASUS ($80)
Memory 16GB CAS9 ($120)
Paste is $4
All together with taxes = = 282 (no case, no disk, no vid card, key
board etc., etc., not that ineed it)
I can reuse existing case.
============================================================
=====================
Post by DJ-Pfulio
Post by Narahari 'n' Savitha
However I saw this for $180 all inclusive.
https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5YV4XJ8211?icid=WP_0_09102017
The PassMark for the CPU - Intel Core i5-2400 Quad Core Processor -
3.1GHz is 5907
----------------------------
So is the extra 100 dollars for the powerful CPU worth it ?
The purpose of the PC is purely for transcoding purpose the OTA
channels
Post by DJ-Pfulio
Post by Narahari 'n' Savitha
via HDHR.
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Jeff Hubbs
2017-09-14 18:42:27 UTC
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I've used ffmpeg quite a lot recently; many cores is life, as is
building with -mcpu=native. :) Did not know nVidia support was a thing;
sadly I think my only nVidia hardware is on the machine I transcode on
but my last attempt to get the right nVidia driver and a modern kernel
to work together ended in failure. Don't know if it's Coda-ready in any
case.
Post by Boris Borisov
Like
https://developer.nvidia.com/ffmpeg
I never had to use it but maybe ill give it test run.
Depends on your needs. I think video transcoding in the hardware
is available for most modern video chipsets. If your priority is
speed over quality look there.
BTW, for transcoding, more than 6G RAM is overkill.
Why don't you transcode something on your current PC? How long
does it
take?  Is that acceptable or not?  What is the "passmark" for
it?  Now
use those amazing fractions to guestimate what the CPU you want will
take to transcode the same file.  Is that acceptable?
I would also look at the required power used - which leads to the fan
needed which leads to the noise created.  If the system is
alone in the
basement, perhaps noise doesn't matter to you?  Mine sit in my
home
office, so noise and excess heat is unacceptable to me.
Every other time you post, it includes running a few VMs. 
More CPUs
helps with running more VMs.
Is it worth it?
It depends. We cannot say.
Post by DJ-Pfulio
It depends.
I am trying to  a PC for transcoding purposes and dont want
to spend a
Post by DJ-Pfulio
lot if I can avoid.
I was almost ready with Microcenter for
FX 8350 CPU with eight cores ($70) PassMark of CPU is 8900
Mother board  ASUS  ($80)
Memory 16GB CAS9 ($120)
Paste is $4
All together with taxes = = 282 (no case, no disk, no vid
card, key
Post by DJ-Pfulio
board etc., etc.,  not that  ineed it)
I can reuse existing case.
=================================================================================
Post by DJ-Pfulio
However I saw this for $180 all inclusive.
https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5YV4XJ8211?icid=WP_0_09102017
<https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5YV4XJ8211?icid=WP_0_09102017>
Post by DJ-Pfulio
The PassMark for the CPU - Intel Core i5-2400 Quad Core
Processor -
Post by DJ-Pfulio
3.1GHz is  5907
----------------------------
So is the extra 100 dollars for the powerful CPU worth it ?
The purpose of the PC is purely for transcoding purpose the
OTA channels
Post by DJ-Pfulio
via HDHR.
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