Discussion:
[ale] OT ALE jobs
Edward O. Holcroft via Ale
2018-02-22 17:49:33 UTC
Permalink
Does the ALE jobs list still work? I just tried to post a job and it
bounced.


This is the mail system at host www.ale.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<ale-***@mail.ale.org>: mail for mail.ale.org loops back to myself

Final-Recipient: rfc822; ale-***@mail.ale.org
Original-Recipient: rfc822;ale-***@mail.ale.org
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for mail.ale.org loops back to myself


_________________________________________

*Edward O. Holcroft*
IT Operations Manager

*Madsen, Kneppers & Associates, Inc.*
Construction Consultants & Engineers
11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250
Johns Creek, GA 30097

*O* 770.446.9606 | *F* 770.446.9612 | *C* 770.630.0949 |
***@mkainc.com

www.mkainc.com
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recipient, please notify the sender immediately then delete it - you should
not copy or use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any other
person. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this
message and any attachments for viruses. Any unauthorized use or
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Leam Hall via Ale
2018-02-22 18:00:49 UTC
Permalink
It's probably using systemd. :P
Post by Edward O. Holcroft via Ale
Does the ALE jobs list still work? I just tried to post a job and it
bounced.
_______________________________________________
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Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
2018-02-22 18:03:18 UTC
Permalink
The last time I got an email from Ale Jobs was a test back on 7-Nov-2017.

The last time I tried to post something to Ale Jobs was on 23-Jan-2018 and I got a message saying it was waiting for moderator approval.

Any time I’ve gotten that such a message I give up. Despite the “moderator” mentioned in the return, I’ve never yet seen any message with a response like that either get forwarded to the list or an explanation of why it was denied. It makes me think no one actually gets notifications to moderate emails.



From: Ale [mailto:ale-***@ale.org] On Behalf Of Edward O. Holcroft via Ale
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:50 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: [ale] OT ALE jobs

Does the ALE jobs list still work? I just tried to post a job and it bounced.


This is the mail system at host www.ale.org<http://www.ale.org>.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<ale-***@mail.ale.org<mailto:ale-***@mail.ale.org>>: mail for mail.ale.org<http://mail.ale.org> loops back to myself

Final-Recipient: rfc822; ale-***@mail.ale.org<mailto:ale-***@mail.ale.org>
Original-Recipient: rfc822;ale-***@mail.ale.org<mailto:rfc822%3Bale-***@mail.ale.org>
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for mail.ale.org<http://mail.ale.org> loops back to myself


_________________________________________

Edward O. Holcroft
IT Operations Manager

Madsen, Kneppers & Associates, Inc.
Construction Consultants & Engineers
11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250
Johns Creek, GA 30097

O 770.446.9606 | F 770.446.9612 | C 770.630.0949 | ***@mkainc.com<mailto:***@mkainc.com>

www.mkainc.com<http://www.mkainc.com>

MADSEN, KNEPPERS & ASSOCIATES USA WARNING/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately then delete it - you should not copy or use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any other person. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Any unauthorized use or interception of this e-mail is illegal.
Chuck Payne via Ale
2018-02-22 18:06:06 UTC
Permalink
If you need a mderator, I don't mind helping.
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
The last time I got an email from Ale Jobs was a test back on 7-Nov-2017.
The last time I tried to post something to Ale Jobs was on 23-Jan-2018 and
I got a message saying it was waiting for moderator approval.
Any time I’ve gotten that such a message I give up. Despite the
“moderator” mentioned in the return, I’ve never yet seen any message with a
response like that either get forwarded to the list or an explanation of
why it was denied. It makes me think no one actually gets notifications to
moderate emails.
Holcroft via Ale
*Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:50 PM
*To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
*Subject:* [ale] OT ALE jobs
Does the ALE jobs list still work? I just tried to post a job and it bounced.
This is the mail system at host www.ale.org.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for mail.ale.org loops back to myself
_________________________________________
*Edward O. Holcroft*
IT Operations Manager
*Madsen, Kneppers & Associates, Inc.*
Construction Consultants & Engineers
11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250
Johns Creek, GA 30097
*O* 770.446.9606 <(770)%20446-9606> | *F* 770.446.9612
<(770)%20446-9612> | *C* 770.630.0949 <(770)%20630-0949> |
www.mkainc.com
MADSEN, KNEPPERS & ASSOCIATES USA WARNING/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This
message may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended
recipient, please notify the sender immediately then delete it - you should
not copy or use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any other
person. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this
message and any attachments for viruses. Any unauthorized use or
interception of this e-mail is illegal.
_______________________________________________
Ale mailing list
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
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Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
2018-02-22 18:19:06 UTC
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I don’t know about that. The mail lists were migrated last year and the 07-Nov-2017 email from Jim Kinney said there were issues with SPF and suggested they had just cleared it from spam mail lists. Today I realize my reply in thread that day was also bounced “waiting for moderator approval” like my later 23-Jan-2018. As noted the test Jim sent on 07-Nov is the last one I actually got FROM ale-jobs.

However, I do still get monthly reminders for both lists showing my login credentials. That doesn’t come from ale-jobs itself though.

Jeffrey C. Lightner
Sr. UNIX/Linux Administrator

DS Services of America, Inc.
2300 Windy Ridge Pkwy
Suite 600 N
Atlanta, GA 30339-8461

P: 678-486-3516
C: 678-772-0018
F: 678-460-3603
E: ***@dsservices.com<mailto:***@dsservices.com>

From: Chuck Payne [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:06 PM
To: Lightner, Jeffrey; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Cc: Edward O. Holcroft
Subject: Re: [ale] OT ALE jobs

If you need a mderator, I don't mind helping.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale <***@ale.org<mailto:***@ale.org>> wrote:
The last time I got an email from Ale Jobs was a test back on 7-Nov-2017.

The last time I tried to post something to Ale Jobs was on 23-Jan-2018 and I got a message saying it was waiting for moderator approval.

Any time I’ve gotten that such a message I give up. Despite the “moderator” mentioned in the return, I’ve never yet seen any message with a response like that either get forwarded to the list or an explanation of why it was denied. It makes me think no one actually gets notifications to moderate emails.



From: Ale [mailto:ale-***@ale.org<mailto:ale-***@ale.org>] On Behalf Of Edward O. Holcroft via Ale
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:50 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: [ale] OT ALE jobs

Does the ALE jobs list still work? I just tried to post a job and it bounced.


This is the mail system at host www.ale.org<http://www.ale.org>.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<ale-***@mail.ale.org<mailto:ale-***@mail.ale.org>>: mail for mail.ale.org<http://mail.ale.org> loops back to myself

Final-Recipient: rfc822; ale-***@mail.ale.org<mailto:ale-***@mail.ale.org>
Original-Recipient: rfc822;ale-***@mail.ale.org<mailto:rfc822%3Bale-***@mail.ale.org>
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for mail.ale.org<http://mail.ale.org> loops back to myself


_________________________________________

Edward O. Holcroft
IT Operations Manager

Madsen, Kneppers & Associates, Inc.
Construction Consultants & Engineers
11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250
Johns Creek, GA 30097

O 770.446.9606<tel:(770)%20446-9606> | F 770.446.9612<tel:(770)%20446-9612> | C 770.630.0949<tel:(770)%20630-0949> | ***@mkainc.com<mailto:***@mkainc.com>

www.mkainc.com<http://www.mkainc.com>

MADSEN, KNEPPERS & ASSOCIATES USA WARNING/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately then delete it - you should not copy or use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any other person. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Any unauthorized use or interception of this e-mail is illegal.

_______________________________________________
Ale mailing list
***@ale.org<mailto:***@ale.org>
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
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Chuck Payne via Ale
2018-02-22 18:27:06 UTC
Permalink
Ok, I don't mind helping just let me know.
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
I don’t know about that. The mail lists were migrated last year and the
07-Nov-2017 email from Jim Kinney said there were issues with SPF and
suggested they had just cleared it from spam mail lists. Today I realize
my reply in thread that day was also bounced “waiting for moderator
approval” like my later 23-Jan-2018. As noted the test Jim sent on
07-Nov is the last one I actually got FROM ale-jobs.
However, I do still get monthly reminders for both lists showing my login
credentials. That doesn’t come from ale-jobs itself though.
*Jeffrey C. Lightner*
*Sr. UNIX/Linux Administrator*
DS Services of America, Inc.
2300 Windy Ridge Pkwy
<https://maps.google.com/?q=2300+Windy+Ridge+Pkwy%0D+Suite%0D+_600_&entry=gmail&source=g>
Suite *600
<https://maps.google.com/?q=2300+Windy+Ridge+Pkwy%0D+Suite%0D+_600_&entry=gmail&source=g>
N*
Atlanta, GA 30339-8461
P: *678-486-3516 <(678)%20486-3516>*
C: *678-772-0018 <(678)%20772-0018>*
F: *678-460-3603 <(678)%20460-3603>*
*Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:06 PM
*To:* Lightner, Jeffrey; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
*Cc:* Edward O. Holcroft
*Subject:* Re: [ale] OT ALE jobs
If you need a mderator, I don't mind helping.
The last time I got an email from Ale Jobs was a test back on 7-Nov-2017.
The last time I tried to post something to Ale Jobs was on 23-Jan-2018 and
I got a message saying it was waiting for moderator approval.
Any time I’ve gotten that such a message I give up. Despite the
“moderator” mentioned in the return, I’ve never yet seen any message with a
response like that either get forwarded to the list or an explanation of
why it was denied. It makes me think no one actually gets notifications to
moderate emails.
Holcroft via Ale
*Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:50 PM
*To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
*Subject:* [ale] OT ALE jobs
Does the ALE jobs list still work? I just tried to post a job and it bounced.
This is the mail system at host www.ale.org.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for mail.ale.org loops back to myself
_________________________________________
*Edward O. Holcroft*
IT Operations Manager
*Madsen, Kneppers & Associates, Inc.*
Construction Consultants & Engineers
11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250
<https://maps.google.com/?q=11695+Johns+Creek+Parkway,+Suite+250+%0D+Johns+Creek,+GA+30097&entry=gmail&source=g>
Johns Creek, GA 30097
*O* 770.446.9606 <(770)%20446-9606> | *F* 770.446.9612
<(770)%20446-9612> | *C* 770.630.0949 <(770)%20630-0949> |
www.mkainc.com
MADSEN, KNEPPERS & ASSOCIATES USA WARNING/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This
message may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended
recipient, please notify the sender immediately then delete it - you should
not copy or use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any other
person. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this
message and any attachments for viruses. Any unauthorized use or
interception of this e-mail is illegal.
_______________________________________________
Ale mailing list
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
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Jim Kinney via Ale
2018-02-22 18:51:11 UTC
Permalink
Robert mentioned earlier this week that the ale-jobs list is offline.
He will fix it asap.
If there are jobs people have in the interim, please post to the ale
list. Job notices are always welcome!
mailman doesn't like being in a hosted environment with multiple
domains in email service. So ale server runs as a vm.
Post by Chuck Payne via Ale
Ok, I don't mind helping just let me know.
Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
I don’t know about that. The mail lists were migrated last year
and the 07-Nov-2017 email from Jim Kinney said there were issues
with SPF and suggested they
had just cleared it from spam mail lists. Today I realize my
reply in thread that day was also bounced “waiting for moderator
approval” like my later 23-Jan-2018. As noted the test Jim sent
on 07-Nov is the last one I actually got FROM ale-jobs.
However, I do still get monthly reminders for both lists showing my
login credentials. That doesn’t come from ale-jobs itself though.
Jeffrey C. Lightner
Sr. UNIX/Linux Administrator
DS Services of America, Inc.
2300 Windy Ridge Pkwy
Suite
600 N
Atlanta, GA 30339-8461
678-486-3516
678-772-0018
678-460-3603
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:06 PM
To: Lightner, Jeffrey; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Cc: Edward O. Holcroft
Subject: Re: [ale] OT ALE jobs
If you need a mderator, I don't mind helping.
The last time I got an email from Ale Jobs was a test back on 7-
Nov-2017.
The last time I tried to post something to Ale Jobs was on 23-Jan-
2018 and I got a message saying
it was waiting for moderator approval.
Any time I’ve gotten that such a message I give up. Despite the
“moderator” mentioned in the return,
I’ve never yet seen any message with a response like that either
get forwarded to the list or an explanation of why it was denied.
It makes me think no one actually gets notifications to moderate
emails.
On Behalf Of Edward O. Holcroft via Ale
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:50 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: [ale] OT ALE jobs
Does the ALE jobs list still work? I just tried to post a job and it bounced.
This is the mail system at host
www.ale.org.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
mail.ale.org loops back to myself
Final-Recipient: rfc822;
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for
mail.ale.org loops back to myself
_________________________________________
Edward O. Holcroft
IT Operations Manager
Madsen, Kneppers & Associates, Inc.
Construction Consultants & Engineers
11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250
Johns Creek, GA 30097
O 770.446.9606 | F 770.446.9612
| C 770.630.0949 |
www.mkainc.com
This message may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not
the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately
then delete it - you should not copy or use it for any purpose or
disclose its content to any other person. Internet communications
are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments
for viruses. Any unauthorized use or interception of this e-mail
is illegal.
_______________________________________________
Ale mailing list
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
--
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Chuck "PUP" Payne
-----------------------------------------
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Give SUSE Studio a try.
_______________________________________________
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Jerald Sheets via Ale
2018-02-22 19:07:39 UTC
Permalink
There has been np mail to the list for quite some time. The existing moderator is underemployed.


We just need mails to actually come in to approve or reject them.


—j
Post by Chuck Payne via Ale
If you need a mderator, I don't mind helping.
The last time I got an email from Ale Jobs was a test back on 7-Nov-2017.
The last time I tried to post something to Ale Jobs was on 23-Jan-2018 and I got a message saying it was waiting for moderator approval.
Any time I’ve gotten that such a message I give up. Despite the “moderator” mentioned in the return, I’ve never yet seen any message with a response like that either get forwarded to the list or an explanation of why it was denied. It makes me think no one actually gets notifications to moderate emails.
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:50 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: [ale] OT ALE jobs
Does the ALE jobs list still work? I just tried to post a job and it bounced.
This is the mail system at host www.ale.org <http://www.ale.org/>.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for mail.ale.org <http://mail.ale.org/> loops back to myself
_________________________________________
Edward O. Holcroft
IT Operations Manager
Madsen, Kneppers & Associates, Inc.
Construction Consultants & Engineers
11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250
Johns Creek, GA 30097
www.mkainc.com <http://www.mkainc.com/>
MADSEN, KNEPPERS & ASSOCIATES USA WARNING/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately then delete it - you should not copy or use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any other person. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Any unauthorized use or interception of this e-mail is illegal.
_______________________________________________
Ale mailing list
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale <http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale>
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo <http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo>
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Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try.
_______________________________________________
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See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
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