[ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows

Discussion:

DJ-Pfulio via Ale

2018-09-24 18:54:57 UTC

At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.

A few came up:
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley

and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee

Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.

TV

There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.

Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).

We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.

Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.

What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?
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Denny Chambers via Ale

2018-09-24 19:00:33 UTC

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Sneakers (1992)

Blackhat (2015)

Post by DJ-Pfulio via Ale
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley
and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y
Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.
TV
There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.
Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).
We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.
Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.
What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?
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Chuck Payne via Ale

2018-09-24 19:03:03 UTC

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Here is a list that should be more helpful

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_about_computers

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Sneakers (1992)
Blackhat (2015)

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Matty via Ale

2018-09-24 19:37:21 UTC

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Don't forget office space. :) PC LOAD letter. WTH does that mean? lolz

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Here is a list that should be more helpful
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_about_computers

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Sneakers (1992)
Blackhat (2015)

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Chuck Payne via Ale

2018-09-24 19:01:22 UTC

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Operation Take Down, also known as takedown (2000). The Kevin Mitnick Story

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159784/?ref_=nv_sr_2

Thought more fantasy, Tek War was cool.

Arie vW via Ale

2018-09-24 19:44:13 UTC

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Mr. Robot is fanstastic

Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale

2018-09-24 20:29:03 UTC

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I love Office Space.

Don't forget about Dilbert. The animated show wasn't great but the comics are great.

From: Ale [mailto:ale-***@ale.org] On Behalf Of Arie vW via Ale
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Mr. Robot is fanstastic

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:55 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <***@ale.org<mailto:***@ale.org>> wrote:
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.

A few came up:
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley

and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y

Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.

TV

There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.

Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).

We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.

Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.

What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?
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Jeff Hubbs via Ale

2018-09-24 20:42:09 UTC

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One I remember from when I was a kid:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project

Post by Arie vW via Ale
Mr. Robot is fanstastic
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley
and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y
Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.
TV
There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.
Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).
We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows.Â Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.
Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.
What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?
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Jim Kinney via Ale

2018-09-24 20:53:45 UTC

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Best computer movie EVER:
Independence Day
Nothing says good computer knowledge by the writers like WRITING A
COMPUTER VIRUS IN ONE DAY THAT INFECTS AN ALIEN SYSTEM!!!
sorry for the spoilers
Will Smith was, well, Will Smith.
Second best:
Jurassic Park
"I know this. It's UNIX!" And then the nerd girl saves they day.
Third best:
The Matrix
I keep taking the red pill but nothing happens. Damn!

Post by DJ-Pfulio via Ale
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related
moviesbecause "The Net" was on TV at the time.
A few came up:* Hackers (1995)* Tron (1982)* WarGames (1983)* Hacker
(2016)* Her (2013) - set in the near-future* CitizenFour* Snowden*
The Circle (2017)* Antitrust (2001)* The Pirates of Silicon Valley
and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider
viewfrom an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y
Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible
andso was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't
seenthem. These are historical and current year movies.
TV
There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon
Valleyand Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck
are alwaysfunny.
Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).
We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be
onAmazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real
hackersvalidate that everything they claim on the show is possible,
BTW.
Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are
willingto go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.
What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we
miss?_______________________________________________Ale mailing
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A. P. Garcia via Ale

2018-09-24 21:04:32 UTC

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I recently saw a trailer for this upcoming movie, which I'm kind of looking
forward to. It's more along the lines of AI and Robotics.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0437086/

Post by Jim Kinney via Ale
Independence Day
Nothing says good computer knowledge by the writers like WRITING A
COMPUTER VIRUS IN ONE DAY THAT INFECTS AN ALIEN SYSTEM!!!
sorry for the spoilers
Will Smith was, well, Will Smith.
Jurassic Park
"I know this. It's UNIX!" And then the nerd girl saves they day.
The Matrix
I keep taking the red pill but nothing happens. Damn!
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley
and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y
Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.
TV
There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.
Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).
We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.
Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.
What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?
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Simba via Ale

2018-09-25 00:22:49 UTC

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Aw man Hackers is a classic! one of the best comedies of the 1990s.

If Documentaries are allowed, there is "BBS The Documentary"

And lest we forget Swordfish, starring John Travolta... lol

Pirates of Silicon Valley is a favorite of mine. Especially because it
stars the real Steve Wozniak and Steve Ballmer playing themselves.

"You don't get it Steve! _That Doesn't Matter!_"

Honestly one of the best and most significant lines ever delivered in a
hollywood film. Too bad it was only a Made for TV film so hardly anyone
saw it.

Tron is especially relevant because it was the first hollywood film to
utilize entirely computer generated scenes.

Snowden was less about computers and more about the horrors of
government over-reach.

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A. P. Garcia via Ale

2018-09-25 02:58:15 UTC

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Post by Simba via Ale
Aw man Hackers is a classic! one of the best comedies of the 1990s.

Fun fact: Hackers and The Net were in theatres around the same time. The
official Hackers website was defaced, along with a message to go see The
Net instead.

Simba via Ale

2018-09-25 03:43:11 UTC

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Yeah but The Net was stupid. Hackers was at least funny :) All the
characters are lovable and it doesn't even try to take the technology
seriously.

Of course it's worth remembering that back then literally none of those
"hollywood" people knew anything about computers. They weren't trying to
be ironic or anything, it just turned out that way.

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Post by Simba via Ale
Aw man Hackers is a classic! one of the best comedies of the 1990s.
Fun fact: Hackers and The Net were in theatres around the same time. The
official Hackers website was defaced, along with a message to go see The
Net instead.

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A. P. Garcia via Ale

2018-09-25 03:54:34 UTC

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I never saw Hackers. I'm not going to argue the merits of The Net. I didn't
particularly like it, but I didn't particularly hate it either. I do kind
of like Sandra Bullock though.

Alas, those Hollywood people haven't improved much. There are some fairly
respectable representations of technology in the media now, but there's
also still a lot of crap.

Simba via Ale

2018-09-25 04:00:47 UTC

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Oh man you should see it! Cereal Killer is my fave ;)

Sandra Bullock is cool. The only thing I liked about that film if I
remember...

Mr. Robot may be an exception but it's lightyears ahead of what the
1990s were like. And it also a phenomenal production in general, those
two things seem to go hand in hand.

I don't expect folks who make their careers in filmography or sound or
casting actors and so forth to be computer experts, but I have a lot
more respect for productions which consult with experts for accuracy.

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Post by Simba via Ale
Yeah but The Net was stupid. Hackers was at least funny :) All the
characters are lovable and it doesn't even try to take the technology
seriously.
Of course it's worth remembering that back then literally none of those
"hollywood" people knew anything about computers. They weren't trying to
be ironic or anything, it just turned out that way.
I never saw Hackers. I'm not going to argue the merits of The Net. I
didn't particularly like it, but I didn't particularly hate it either. I
do kind of like Sandra Bullock though.
Alas, those Hollywood people haven't improved much. There are some
fairly respectable representations of technology in the media now, but
there's also still a lot of crap.

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Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale

2018-09-25 12:27:41 UTC

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Documentaries comment reminds me of an old one called "The CIA, the KGB and Me" about a guy who discovered East German hackers accessing CIA computer via his mainframe. He found them due to the fact there was "time" used on the computer he couldn't figure out to which department in his company it should be billed. That appeals to me as an ex-bean counter as well as an IT person.

Hollywood movies being clueless: The original Jurassic Park where the little girl is going to undo what the professional admin did to sabotage the computers. A funny moment though was when she sits down and says something like "Ugh, it's UNIX".

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Oh man you should see it! Cereal Killer is my fave ;)

Sandra Bullock is cool. The only thing I liked about that film if I remember...

Mr. Robot may be an exception but it's lightyears ahead of what the 1990s were like. And it also a phenomenal production in general, those two things seem to go hand in hand.

I don't expect folks who make their careers in filmography or sound or casting actors and so forth to be computer experts, but I have a lot more respect for productions which consult with experts for accuracy.

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Post by Simba via Ale
Yeah but The Net was stupid. Hackers was at least funny :) All the
characters are lovable and it doesn't even try to take the technology
seriously.
Of course it's worth remembering that back then literally none of those
"hollywood" people knew anything about computers. They weren't trying to
be ironic or anything, it just turned out that way.
I never saw Hackers. I'm not going to argue the merits of The Net. I
didn't particularly like it, but I didn't particularly hate it either.
I do kind of like Sandra Bullock though.
Alas, those Hollywood people haven't improved much. There are some
fairly respectable representations of technology in the media now, but
there's also still a lot of crap.

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Jim Kinney via Ale

2018-09-25 12:38:45 UTC

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The book on that was "The Cuckoo's Egg". Great read! A $0.05 discrepancy in time vs. billing leads to a romp through non-existent security, hardware hacking data lines, beaurocracy impediments, and persistence.

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
Documentaries comment reminds me of an old one called "The CIA, the KGB
and Me" about a guy who discovered East German hackers accessing CIA
computer via his mainframe. He found them due to the fact there was
"time" used on the computer he couldn't figure out to which department
in his company it should be billed. That appeals to me as an ex-bean
counter as well as an IT person.
Hollywood movies being clueless: The original Jurassic Park where the
little girl is going to undo what the professional admin did to
sabotage the computers. A funny moment though was when she sits down
and says something like "Ugh, it's UNIX".
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Subject: Re: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows
Oh man you should see it! Cereal Killer is my fave ;)
Sandra Bullock is cool. The only thing I liked about that film if I remember...
Mr. Robot may be an exception but it's lightyears ahead of what the
1990s were like. And it also a phenomenal production in general, those
two things seem to go hand in hand.
I don't expect folks who make their careers in filmography or sound or
casting actors and so forth to be computer experts, but I have a lot
more respect for productions which consult with experts for accuracy.
Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
https://keybase.io/simbalion
"Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Post by Simba via Ale
Yeah but The Net was stupid. Hackers was at least funny :) All

the

Post by Simba via Ale
characters are lovable and it doesn't even try to take the

technology

Post by Simba via Ale
seriously.
Of course it's worth remembering that back then literally none of

those

Post by Simba via Ale
"hollywood" people knew anything about computers. They weren't

trying to

either.

Post by Simba via Ale
I do kind of like Sandra Bullock though.
Alas, those Hollywood people haven't improved much. There are some
fairly respectable representations of technology in the media now,

but

Post by Simba via Ale
there's also still a lot of crap.

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Ken Cochran via Ale

2018-09-25 12:52:28 UTC

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Well, drifting OT (to book instead of movie/TV), that sounds
like the storyline of The Cuckoo's Egg, by Clifford Stoll,
highly recommended btw. AFAIK there hasn't been a film by
that title (licensing?) but your documentary reference sounds
almost identical. (Stoll's adversary was Bulgarian AFAIR.)
Long-ago former IT beancounter here too. -kc

Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 12:27:41 +0000
Subject: Re: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows
Documentaries comment reminds me of an old one called "The
CIA, the KGB and Me" about a guy who discovered East German
hackers accessing CIA computer via his mainframe. He found
them due to the fact there was "time" used on the computer
he couldn't figure out to which department in his company it
should be billed. That appeals to me as an ex-bean counter
as well as an IT person.
Hollywood movies being clueless: The original Jurassic Park
where the little girl is going to undo what the professional
admin did to sabotage the computers. A funny moment though
was when she sits down and says something like "Ugh, it's UNIX".
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Subject: Re: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows
Oh man you should see it! Cereal Killer is my fave ;)
Sandra Bullock is cool. The only thing I liked about that film
if I remember...
Mr. Robot may be an exception but it's lightyears ahead of
what the 1990s were like. And it also a phenomenal production
in general, those two things seem to go hand in hand.
I don't expect folks who make their careers in filmography or
sound or casting actors and so forth to be computer experts,
but I have a lot more respect for productions which consult
with experts for accuracy.
Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
https://keybase.io/simbalion
"Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Post by Simba via Ale
Yeah but The Net was stupid. Hackers was at least funny :) All the
characters are lovable and it doesn't even try to take the technology
seriously.
Of course it's worth remembering that back then literally none of those
"hollywood" people knew anything about computers. They weren't trying to
be ironic or anything, it just turned out that way.
I never saw Hackers. I'm not going to argue the merits of The Net. I
didn't particularly like it, but I didn't particularly hate it either.
I do kind of like Sandra Bullock though.
Alas, those Hollywood people haven't improved much. There are some
fairly respectable representations of technology in the media now, but
there's also still a lot of crap.

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Pete Hardie via Ale

2018-09-25 13:01:40 UTC

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To correct one point - she says with delight "this is a Unix system!"

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
Documentaries comment reminds me of an old one called "The CIA, the KGB
and Me" about a guy who discovered East German hackers accessing CIA
computer via his mainframe. He found them due to the fact there was "time"
used on the computer he couldn't figure out to which department in his
company it should be billed. That appeals to me as an ex-bean counter as
well as an IT person.
Hollywood movies being clueless: The original Jurassic Park where the
little girl is going to undo what the professional admin did to sabotage
the computers. A funny moment though was when she sits down and says
something like "Ugh, it's UNIX".
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Subject: Re: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows
Oh man you should see it! Cereal Killer is my fave ;)
Sandra Bullock is cool. The only thing I liked about that film if I remember...
Mr. Robot may be an exception but it's lightyears ahead of what the 1990s
were like. And it also a phenomenal production in general, those two things
seem to go hand in hand.
I don't expect folks who make their careers in filmography or sound or
casting actors and so forth to be computer experts, but I have a lot more
respect for productions which consult with experts for accuracy.
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those

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"hollywood" people knew anything about computers. They weren't

trying to

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be ironic or anything, it just turned out that way.
I never saw Hackers. I'm not going to argue the merits of The Net. I
didn't particularly like it, but I didn't particularly hate it either.
I do kind of like Sandra Bullock though.
Alas, those Hollywood people haven't improved much. There are some
fairly respectable representations of technology in the media now, but
there's also still a lot of crap.

Jim Kinney via Ale

2018-09-25 13:46:51 UTC

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+1!

The delight was pretty cool. The screen graphics reminded me of tkdesktop (which I can't find ANY reference to. I liked it)

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To correct one point - she says with delight "this is a Unix system!"

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
Documentaries comment reminds me of an old one called "The CIA, the

KGB

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and Me" about a guy who discovered East German hackers accessing CIA
computer via his mainframe. He found them due to the fact there was

"time"

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
used on the computer he couldn't figure out to which department in

his

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
company it should be billed. That appeals to me as an ex-bean

counter as

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
well as an IT person.
Hollywood movies being clueless: The original Jurassic Park where

the

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
little girl is going to undo what the professional admin did to

sabotage

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
the computers. A funny moment though was when she sits down and

says

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
something like "Ugh, it's UNIX".
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Subject: Re: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows
Oh man you should see it! Cereal Killer is my fave ;)
Sandra Bullock is cool. The only thing I liked about that film if I remember...
Mr. Robot may be an exception but it's lightyears ahead of what the

1990s

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
were like. And it also a phenomenal production in general, those two

things

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
seem to go hand in hand.
I don't expect folks who make their careers in filmography or sound

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
casting actors and so forth to be computer experts, but I have a lot

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
respect for productions which consult with experts for accuracy.
Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
https://keybase.io/simbalion
"Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Post by Simba via Ale
Yeah but The Net was stupid. Hackers was at least funny :) All

the

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale

Post by Simba via Ale
characters are lovable and it doesn't even try to take the

technology

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale

Post by Simba via Ale
seriously.
Of course it's worth remembering that back then literally none

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
those

Post by Simba via Ale
"hollywood" people knew anything about computers. They weren't

trying to

Post by Simba via Ale
be ironic or anything, it just turned out that way.
I never saw Hackers. I'm not going to argue the merits of The Net.

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale

Post by Simba via Ale
didn't particularly like it, but I didn't particularly hate it

either.

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale

Post by Simba via Ale
I do kind of like Sandra Bullock though.
Alas, those Hollywood people haven't improved much. There are some
fairly respectable representations of technology in the media now,

but

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale

Post by Simba via Ale
there's also still a lot of crap.

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Chuck Payne via Ale

2018-09-25 14:22:48 UTC

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Most Computer graphics in the 90's where mac with a theme applied to them.
Most code flash on the screen was some type of HTML or PHP.

CSI Cyber was so bad, they used ip that were higher than 255, I forget the
statement but they show Raspberry PI made sound like a super computer.

Post by Jim Kinney via Ale
+1!
The delight was pretty cool. The screen graphics reminded me of tkdesktop
(which I can't find ANY reference to. I liked it)

Post by Pete Hardie via Ale
To correct one point - she says with delight "this is a Unix system!"

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
Documentaries comment reminds me of an old one called "The CIA, the KGB
and Me" about a guy who discovered East German hackers accessing CIA
computer via his mainframe. He found them due to the fact there was "time"
used on the computer he couldn't figure out to which department in his
company it should be billed. That appeals to me as an ex-bean counter as
well as an IT person.
Hollywood movies being clueless: The original Jurassic Park where the
little girl is going to undo what the professional admin did to sabotage
the computers. A funny moment though was when she sits down and says
something like "Ugh, it's UNIX".
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:01 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows
Oh man you should see it! Cereal Killer is my fave ;)
Sandra Bullock is cool. The only thing I liked about that film if I remember...
Mr. Robot may be an exception but it's lightyears ahead of what the
1990s were like. And it also a phenomenal production in general, those two
things seem to go hand in hand.
I don't expect folks who make their careers in filmography or sound or
casting actors and so forth to be computer experts, but I have a lot more
respect for productions which consult with experts for accuracy.
Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
https://keybase.io/simbalion
"Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Post by Simba via Ale
Yeah but The Net was stupid. Hackers was at least funny :) All the
characters are lovable and it doesn't even try to take the

technology

Post by Simba via Ale
seriously.
Of course it's worth remembering that back then literally none of

those

Post by Simba via Ale
"hollywood" people knew anything about computers. They weren't

trying to

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Ken Cochran via Ale

2018-09-25 02:50:22 UTC

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"The Machine that Changed the World" - PBS series from some years back.
-kc

Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:54:57 -0400
Subject: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley
and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y
Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.
TV
There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.
Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).
We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.
Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.
What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?

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Ben Coleman via Ale

2018-09-30 09:24:51 UTC

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Would you fit "Person of Interest" in this category? (I've always
wondered if they essentially pulled a bait-and-switch on CBS - the show
started off looking like a standard, if quirky, CBS-style procedural,
and, by the second or third season, morphed into something quite
different). It certainly centers on computers and similar technology.
Though I understand that when the Snowden disclosures came out in the
midst of PoI's run, they felt like they'd gone from doing futuristic
sci-fi to doing a documentary.

Ben

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Pete Hardie via Ale

2018-09-30 13:36:07 UTC

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Yes! POO was excellent

Post by Ben Coleman via Ale
Would you fit "Person of Interest" in this category? (I've always
wondered if they essentially pulled a bait-and-switch on CBS - the show
started off looking like a standard, if quirky, CBS-style procedural,
and, by the second or third season, morphed into something quite
different). It certainly centers on computers and similar technology.
Though I understand that when the Snowden disclosures came out in the
midst of PoI's run, they felt like they'd gone from doing futuristic
sci-fi to doing a documentary.
Ben
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Simba via Ale

2018-09-30 19:25:25 UTC

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Gosh I hope that was an auto correct mistake.

Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
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"Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Post by Pete Hardie via Ale
Yes! POO was excellent
Would you fit "Person of Interest" in this category? (I've always
wondered if they essentially pulled a bait-and-switch on CBS - the show
started off looking like a standard, if quirky, CBS-style procedural,
and, by the second or third season, morphed into something quite
different). It certainly centers on computers and similar technology.
Though I understand that when the Snowden disclosures came out in the
midst of PoI's run, they felt like they'd gone from doing futuristic
sci-fi to doing a documentary.
Ben
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http://oloryn.benshome.net/ | looking right. For the fool, looking
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Pete Hardie via Ale

2018-09-30 19:32:03 UTC

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Dammit. Yes it was. POI.....

Post by Simba via Ale
Gosh I hope that was an auto correct mistake.
Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
https://keybase.io/simbalion
"Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Post by Pete Hardie via Ale
Yes! POO was excellent
Would you fit "Person of Interest" in this category? (I've always
wondered if they essentially pulled a bait-and-switch on CBS - the

show

Post by Pete Hardie via Ale
started off looking like a standard, if quirky, CBS-style procedural,
and, by the second or third season, morphed into something quite
different). It certainly centers on computers and similar

technology.

Post by Pete Hardie via Ale
Though I understand that when the Snowden disclosures came out in the
midst of PoI's run, they felt like they'd gone from doing futuristic
sci-fi to doing a documentary.
Ben
--
the wise man, doing right trumps
http://oloryn.benshome.net/ | looking right. For the fool,

looking

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Amateur Radio NJ8J | right trumps doing right.
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Elliot Holden via Ale

2018-10-01 15:32:37 UTC

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Wow definitely can't leave out

Blackhat (2015)

Whether you like Chris Hemsworth or not I actually learned a few useful
commands from that movie like the "write" command (fun one to use at work)
- plus this movie is dark and edgy and none of the MovieOS stuff, lol.
Actual command line stuff.

Also,

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011)

she's writing really SQL queries (in MySQL I believe). Another dark and
edgy movie.

Elliot

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Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale

2018-10-01 17:37:37 UTC

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A few years back I went to a Solaris admin boot camp aimed at admins who already knew UNIX but needed to come up to speed on Solarisâ way of doing things The pre-requisites made it clear only experienced UNIX admins should attend owing to the fast pace (and long days). Despite that, a consultant who only knew MS Windows signed up and slowed the class down with questions like âWhat does ls do?â.

Solaris had a command called âsprayâ where you could send noises to another workstation. Many of the attendees took turns doing âwriteâ, âsprayâ and other commands to this guyâs workstation. If he looked at who he thought was the culprit someone else would start doing it. It wasnât very nice but it was funny.

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Subject: Re: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows

Wow definitely can't leave out

Blackhat (2015)

Whether you like Chris Hemsworth or not I actually learned a few useful commands from that movie like the "write" command (fun one to use at work) - plus this movie is dark and edgy and none of the MovieOS stuff, lol. Actual command line stuff.

Also,

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011)

she's writing really SQL queries (in MySQL I believe). Another dark and edgy movie.

Elliot

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:55 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <***@ale.org<mailto:***@ale.org>> wrote:
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.

A few came up:
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley

and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y

Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.

TV

There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.

Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).

We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.

Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.

What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?
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Jim Kinney via Ale

2018-10-01 17:55:55 UTC

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Excellent!! Sometimes people really need to accept their personal
limits and just get out of the way.

Post by DJ-Pfulio via Ale
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley
and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y
Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was
terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.
TV
There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.
Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).
We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.
Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.
What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?
_______________________________________________
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Elliot Holden via Ale

2018-10-01 20:43:09 UTC

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That's funny. Looks like the AIX box I'm on has the "spray" command
available, interesting...

Elliot

Post by Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale
A few years back I went to a Solaris admin boot camp aimed at admins who
already knew UNIX but needed to come up to speed on Solarisâ way of doing
things The pre-requisites made it clear only experienced UNIX admins
should attend owing to the fast pace (and long days). Despite that, a
consultant who only knew MS Windows signed up and slowed the class down
with questions like âWhat does ls do?â.
Solaris had a command called âsprayâ where you could send noises to
another workstation. Many of the attendees took turns doing âwriteâ,
âsprayâ and other commands to this guyâs workstation. If he looked at who
he thought was the culprit someone else would start doing it. It wasnât
very nice but it was funny.
Ale
*Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2018 11:33 AM
*Subject:* Re: [ale] Computer centric Movies/TV Shows
Wow definitely can't leave out
Blackhat (2015)
Whether you like Chris Hemsworth or not I actually learned a few useful
commands from that movie like the "write" command (fun one to use at work)
- plus this movie is dark and edgy and none of the MovieOS stuff, lol.
Actual command line stuff.
Also,
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011)
she's writing really SQL queries (in MySQL I believe). Another dark and edgy movie.
Elliot
At ALE-NW yesterday, we were discussing some Computer-related movies
because "The Net" was on TV at the time.
* Hackers (1995)
* Tron (1982)
* WarGames (1983)
* Hacker (2016)
* Her (2013) - set in the near-future
* CitizenFour
* Snowden
* The Circle (2017)
* Antitrust (2001)
* The Pirates of Silicon Valley
and that PBS documentary _The Triumph of the Nerds_ with an insider view
from an early Apple employee
http://youtu.be/sX5g0kidk3Y
Hackers and WarGames are the worst in the list. The Net was terrible and
so was the sequel. The last 3 are worth a watch if you haven't seen
them. These are historical and current year movies.
TV
There have been many recent TV series about computing. Silicon Valley
and Halt and Catch Fire come to mind. The IT Crowd and Chuck are always
funny.
Many are on APV or Netflix or Youtube (free).
We avoided all the Hacking-centric shows. Mr. Robot S3 will be on
Amazon Prime next month. S1 and S2 are there already. Real hackers
validate that everything they claim on the show is possible, BTW.
Antitrust and The Circle show how far fictitious companies are willing
to go. I suspect they aren't far from reality at all.
What movies in the same "computing startup" vein did we miss?
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